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when asked if a middle ground could be found, both boehner and biden showed some wiggle room. >> the top brackets have to go up. it's not a negotiable issue. theoretically we can negotiate how far up. >> reporter: at another local restaurant, the owner has seen enough of washington gridlock. >> i wish those lawmakers would get their [ bleep ] together and get it done and try to help everybody. it would be good if they could do it before the holidays are over. >> reporter: craig, as someone who spent some time in river city here in washington, i wanted to show you this. these are the inaugural stands right on pennsylvania avenue, right in front of the white house. i'm looking at them and listening to them right now. they've been going up pretty steadily. these guys work around the clock. january 21st, the president is going to be marching past the white house to live here for another four years. now, about the fiscal cliff, john boehner's in town. that's relatively rare for him to stay in town on the weekend. the president was here, but there were meetings yesterday. nancy pelosi came
when asked if a middle ground could be found, both boehner and biden showed some wiggle room. >> the top brackets have to go up. it's not a negotiable issue. theoretically we can negotiate how far up. >> reporter: at another local restaurant, the owner has seen enough of washington gridlock. >> i wish those lawmakers would get their [ bleep ] together and get it done and try to help everybody. it would be good if they could do it before the holidays are over. >>...
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vice president biden will have lunch with a group of middle americans who can see their income taxes go up similar to the photo-op, the fiscal cliff photo-op of yesterday which was the president meeting with the middle class family. now to jobs. we have something of a surprise report. jobs turned out to be up up. the jobless rate is down and the word from the government is that sandy had no substantive effect on the data. here are the numbers. unemployment down to 7.7%. the economy added 146,000 jobs, not great but good. a third of that came from the retail sector. 53,000 jobs added. professional and business services up 43,000. leisure and hospitality up. construction, though, lost 20,000 jobs. we should note that jobs numbers were revise d downward, though, for september and october. in september it was revised from 148,000 gain to 238,000. went from 138,000 to 132,000. this month, the 7.7 is a full point lower than where we were at this time last year. so what are we supposed to make of these numbers and does the november report provide us a real sense of where this recovery is ri
vice president biden will have lunch with a group of middle americans who can see their income taxes go up similar to the photo-op, the fiscal cliff photo-op of yesterday which was the president meeting with the middle class family. now to jobs. we have something of a surprise report. jobs turned out to be up up. the jobless rate is down and the word from the government is that sandy had no substantive effect on the data. here are the numbers. unemployment down to 7.7%. the economy added...
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up says joe biden. the door is open. so the question is john boehner puts a bill on the floor that raises taxes on the wealthy, even if just half as much as the president initially insisted on. is he going to get enough republican votes to pass that? no way in the world. there could be a revolt within the republican party. what do they need to pass that? democratic votes. who was in the west wing this afternoon? >> nancy pelosi. >> we're reading tea leaves but we're laking at something that could be a nascent development and i'm speculating a little bit. >> go a bit further. are you thinking around 37% for the top rate? >> reporter: 37% is the number that keeps coming up. the point is that it could be -- that could be the wiggle room there between that top rate -- remember, 39.6% was the rate during the clinton administration. there's also the question of limit of $250,000 by everybody above that as the president has said ad infinitum during the campaign and above that, those are the people whose taxes
up says joe biden. the door is open. so the question is john boehner puts a bill on the floor that raises taxes on the wealthy, even if just half as much as the president initially insisted on. is he going to get enough republican votes to pass that? no way in the world. there could be a revolt within the republican party. what do they need to pass that? democratic votes. who was in the west wing this afternoon? >> nancy pelosi. >> we're reading tea leaves but we're laking at...
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president biden asked if it could be 37%, hedged on the question. even john boehner initial why when asked this question hedged a little bit. speaking of republicans, a rising star, senator marco rubio had this response in the weekly gop response to the president. >> we must get the national debt under control. tax increases will not solve our $16 trillion debt. only economic growth and a reform of sbilgsment programs will help control the debt. we must reform our complicated uncertain job killing tax code by getting rid of unjustified loopholes. but our goal should be generating revenue by creating new taxpayers not new taxes. >>> so alex, the question, your initial question, can it get done? the answer is yes. joe biden joked yesterday he could run it up to the hill from the white house in 15 minutes and run it back and have the president sign it. maybe not that quick. but most people believe if the will is there and votes are there it could get done in relatively short order. >> that's the big question. the vice president would only be able to ge
president biden asked if it could be 37%, hedged on the question. even john boehner initial why when asked this question hedged a little bit. speaking of republicans, a rising star, senator marco rubio had this response in the weekly gop response to the president. >> we must get the national debt under control. tax increases will not solve our $16 trillion debt. only economic growth and a reform of sbilgsment programs will help control the debt. we must reform our complicated uncertain...
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put the pressure on boehner in the way that only joe biden can. >> folks, this is not hard. this ain't rocket science. it would take 15 minutes from the time the decision was made by the speaker of the house to pass and make permanent middle class tax cuts. the president would probably have me sprint up to the hill to bring the bill down for him to sign. it can be done like that. it is not complicated. >> the president and the democrats have the poll numbers on their side. 53% of people approve of the job president obama is doing. 53% trust him to handle the negotiations while just 36% say they trust the republicans in congress. and 65% of voters are with the president on a sticking issue in these negotiations -- raising taxes on household income over 250,000. 31% oppose it. and today a new number is strengthening the president's position in the negotiations. the november jobs report shows the unemployment rate has dropped to 7.7%. the economy added 146,000 jobs last month, and that is one reason why today john boehner kind of, sort of maybe entertained the idea of giving pr
put the pressure on boehner in the way that only joe biden can. >> folks, this is not hard. this ain't rocket science. it would take 15 minutes from the time the decision was made by the speaker of the house to pass and make permanent middle class tax cuts. the president would probably have me sprint up to the hill to bring the bill down for him to sign. it can be done like that. it is not complicated. >> the president and the democrats have the poll numbers on their side. 53% of...
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vice president biden doing something similar today. what does the president hope to accomplish with visits like that and photo opes like this. >> this is a movie where we have a spoiler alert where we know the ending here. it goes one of two ways. we have taxes go up for everyone or the rich. president obama is making it clear to john boehner who aappears to be anyway public denial to try to stall time to prevent that from happening. >> is that the goal whether he comes out and has press conferences like that, is he posturing? what is he doing, if the end has already been decided. >> i don't know if it's been decided, but there's inevitablity here. the way it works is this is not an even fight where the republicans and democrats start in a certain way. if nothing happens, taxes go up at the new year, and that's a problem for republicans. it's a better hand for democrats. the alternatives is taxes go up for everyone or the top 2%. that's an inevitable reality. i think john boehner has a lot of completing political interest here. he has
vice president biden doing something similar today. what does the president hope to accomplish with visits like that and photo opes like this. >> this is a movie where we have a spoiler alert where we know the ending here. it goes one of two ways. we have taxes go up for everyone or the rich. president obama is making it clear to john boehner who aappears to be anyway public denial to try to stall time to prevent that from happening. >> is that the goal whether he comes out and has...
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vice president joe biden is meeting with a middle class family. and yesterday president obama met with a virginia family. tax hikes for the rich are nonnegotiable. >> just to be clear, i'm not going to sign any package that somehow prevents the top rate from going up for folks at the top 2%. but i do remain optimistic that we can get something done that is for families like this one. >> joining me now is barry, msnbc political contributor and editor for grio. hello, guys. >> perry, i'm wondering if these new unemployment numbers add to the president's leverage? >> i think they do. the big thing is the election. but the jobs numbers suggest that the economy is doing well and it cuts against the republican argument that raising taxes on the rich with would hurt the economy and the economy is fragile. the numbers though that the economy is not fragile and that would improve the economy's leverage. he's still doing so many public events. he is trying to use that public pressure to sort of force the republicans to cut a deal. >> doing this public stuff
vice president joe biden is meeting with a middle class family. and yesterday president obama met with a virginia family. tax hikes for the rich are nonnegotiable. >> just to be clear, i'm not going to sign any package that somehow prevents the top rate from going up for folks at the top 2%. but i do remain optimistic that we can get something done that is for families like this one. >> joining me now is barry, msnbc political contributor and editor for grio. hello, guys. >>...
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>> i think republicans in congress work better with vice president biden than president obama in these sorts of negotiations. >> america's happy warrior could be ruled out. what's your headline, good sir? >> unfortunately like past headlines, "in a jobs crisis, the republicans are still trying to cut health care and economic aid." i think that will be more and more difficult for them to carry as a message when people back home don't talk about cliffs, they talk about jobs, they talk about unemployment, and they don't want manufactured crises from washington when you could cut these tax hikes on the middle class, first order of business. >> it is fascinating. you eluded to it earlier, number of guests have talked about this as well, how we are very much in the posturing phase period as you indicated. a lot of bluster, a lot of chest thumping. one has to wonder at what point, at what point, perry, all of that ends and the real negotiating gets started. >> it's going to get close -- january 1st is getting closer. we're further from the posturing stage and further to the negotiating phase.
>> i think republicans in congress work better with vice president biden than president obama in these sorts of negotiations. >> america's happy warrior could be ruled out. what's your headline, good sir? >> unfortunately like past headlines, "in a jobs crisis, the republicans are still trying to cut health care and economic aid." i think that will be more and more difficult for them to carry as a message when people back home don't talk about cliffs, they talk about...
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most looked up word in a single 24-hour period in 2012 permeram webster, malarkey, after biden used it at the debate. wasn't my daughter's black bean soup spectacular? [ man thinking ] oh, this gas. those antacids aren't working. oh no, not that, not here! [ male announcer ] antacids don't relieve gas. gas-x is designed to relieve gas. gas-x. the gas xperts. >>> pizza perfume, driving dogs and the grammys. if you've always loved that smell when you open a box of piping hot pizza, well now you can hear it. pizza hut is releasing a brand new fragrance named pizza hut perfume. i know what you're thinking, finally. it started as a joke and now 110 bottles have been produced for facebook fans. no word on if pizza hut will make more. >> buckle up humans. now there are dogs behind the wheel. a couple canines in new zealand got traend to drive. they're actually driving. they can change gears, they can brake, they're steering. the point is to show how smart rescue dogs can be. >> good news for this brother and sister who have found happy news. they were april boous and ababu the railroad tracks
most looked up word in a single 24-hour period in 2012 permeram webster, malarkey, after biden used it at the debate. wasn't my daughter's black bean soup spectacular? [ man thinking ] oh, this gas. those antacids aren't working. oh no, not that, not here! [ male announcer ] antacids don't relieve gas. gas-x is designed to relieve gas. gas-x. the gas xperts. >>> pizza perfume, driving dogs and the grammys. if you've always loved that smell when you open a box of piping hot pizza, well...
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joining me is former economic adviser to vice president joe biden, jared bernstein, and ron insana. you heard the speaker and his comments moments ago. this is good for the president, the jobs report, no doubt. he can argue that, my policies have been working, better tax hikes for the upper 2%, more amenable because the economy is coming along. how do democrats leverage this in the key cliff negotiations going on? >> i think the key point is that there is some momentum in the jobs report. the labor market diminished a little bit in december. that's why the unemployment rate fell down, not because of extra jobs. but all told, especially expecting sandy's damage, it was a pretty good report and it shows that there's some und underlying momentum. the argument from the president or from anyone who cares are this economic recovery, it would be a crazy time to throw a monkey wrench at an ongoing recovery that has a little bit of momentum. >> ron, to you on this. talking about sandy, there seems to be a lack of sandy effect as some had thought initially. we see a pullback, a little less th
joining me is former economic adviser to vice president joe biden, jared bernstein, and ron insana. you heard the speaker and his comments moments ago. this is good for the president, the jobs report, no doubt. he can argue that, my policies have been working, better tax hikes for the upper 2%, more amenable because the economy is coming along. how do democrats leverage this in the key cliff negotiations going on? >> i think the key point is that there is some momentum in the jobs report....
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morning shows clinton's favorability rating is higher than that of president obama and vice president biden as well as some of the most tested republicans of the 2012 race. so what is it that right now gives her this broad and formidable political appeal? because this is certainly a turnaround from what we've seen. because in '08, you know, she didn't lose the presidential election. she lost the primary to get there. so this is a big step forward in four years. >> it is. and, you know, her aides, her former aides, are just so delighted by it. they say there are people who worked for her all the way back in the white house who said to me when i reported this story, i finally feel like the country really sees hillary clinton. you know, they see how hard working she is, how dedicated, et cetera, et cetera. those are their words. not mine. but there is this moment of incredible popularity she has. part of it comes from being secretary of state. right? because she hasn't gotten involved in some of the very nasty political wrangling we've seen in this country for the last couple of years. she has
morning shows clinton's favorability rating is higher than that of president obama and vice president biden as well as some of the most tested republicans of the 2012 race. so what is it that right now gives her this broad and formidable political appeal? because this is certainly a turnaround from what we've seen. because in '08, you know, she didn't lose the presidential election. she lost the primary to get there. so this is a big step forward in four years. >> it is. and, you know,...
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maybe eric cantor and vice president joe biden may be working together to reauthorize the violence against women act. >> yes. >> are you bullish or bearish? >> i'm hopeful. i got to say. i actually think there is an understanding of how important it is to get that done. let's be hopeful there. and who knows, alex. maybe that's an opening to a better day for women in the republican party. >> karen finney, you get tonight's last word. thank you for ending on a high note, my friend. >> take care. >> be sure to join me for "now" at noon eastern, 9:00 a.m. pacific, weekdays right here on msnbc. "the ed show" is up next. "hardball" starts right now. >>> gay marriage. an american right? let's play "hardball." ♪ >>> good evening. i'm chris matthews in washington. let me start with this. today the united states supreme court said it would take up the issue of same-sex marriage. this is an astounding moment in american history and in the march of rights that began in philadelphia in the last quarter of the 18th century and continues through this first quarter of the 21st. is it constitutional for
maybe eric cantor and vice president joe biden may be working together to reauthorize the violence against women act. >> yes. >> are you bullish or bearish? >> i'm hopeful. i got to say. i actually think there is an understanding of how important it is to get that done. let's be hopeful there. and who knows, alex. maybe that's an opening to a better day for women in the republican party. >> karen finney, you get tonight's last word. thank you for ending on a high note,...
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new poll that shows hillary clinton the top contender in 2016 followed by america's happy warrior joe biden at 16%. senator elect elizabeth warren comes in at 4%. what's the takeaway for you, angela? >> i think that people appreciate the fact that secretary clinton has demonstrated clear leadership at the state department, and they think it's her turn. it's her time. >> angela, matt, dave, thank you all so much. do appreciate your time. and thanks to you as well for spending time with us this sundays afternoon. that will do it for me right now. keep it here on msnbc for the latest news. i'll be back next saturday 2:00 until 5:00 eastern on saturday. 3:00 until 5:00 eastern on sunday. you're watching msnbc, the place for politics. have a fantastic sundays night. [ dylan ] this is one way to keep your underwear clean. this is another! ta-daa! try charmin ultra strong. it cleans so well and you can use up to four times less than the leading value brand. oh! there it is. thanks son. hey! [ female announcer ] charmin ultra strong has a duraclean texture that can help you get clean while still us
new poll that shows hillary clinton the top contender in 2016 followed by america's happy warrior joe biden at 16%. senator elect elizabeth warren comes in at 4%. what's the takeaway for you, angela? >> i think that people appreciate the fact that secretary clinton has demonstrated clear leadership at the state department, and they think it's her turn. it's her time. >> angela, matt, dave, thank you all so much. do appreciate your time. and thanks to you as well for spending time...